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Dave B wrote:I have been told on more than one occasion that it's the DC that is in control of the lodge, rather than the WM and in my short time within the Fraternally I can see what they mean.
Trouillogan wrote:If he (the DC) needs to intervene during Lodge proceedings, that would be a public demonstration of his failure over that work.
gcoudert wrote:Trouillogan wrote:If he (the DC) needs to intervene during Lodge proceedings, that would be a public demonstration of his failure over that work.
That's a harsh and unfair comment, Brother, which does not take into account the Officers' levels of ability and effort.
Richard George wrote:Apology accepted. Would that my secretary had apologised as quick rather than waiting 5 years to do so - after being told rather bluntly why when he asked why I'd not been to meetings for 4 and a half years!
Richard George wrote:As I said, I only raised the point to show that DCs sometimes don't have any control over what happens in a meeting, but get the blame anyway.
jackal wrote:You said "it's" and the book clearly says "it is". So all he could do was criticise this one minor error, which it was.
Tazmaniac1977 wrote:I am posting this after a couple of incidents this week. I have just gone into the SW chair and am looking forward to next year but in the last week i found myself asking should i do this. What happened was the new WM has twice had a go at me basically saying i need to get ritual better and that i should not underestimate it. But when he did it it was not that diplomatic. The first time was at a friends 1st Birthday for his son. The second what while out visiting another lodge while we were all eating. He was on the table next to me. The worst part was it was a ladies dining in night so i had potential members with me as well as their partners.
They were astounded that i would let someone speak to me like that as they know me outside of masons and i am not a quiet personality person.
I Know that i am not a ritualist but i do try very hard sometimes even going home after practice as pretty much beating myself up about it. I just had installation which i got bob on. I know i struggle but do my best, The DC from my lodge has even said to me that since i have my new job which allows me more time to revise my ritual has got a lot better.
I also know that the WM means well and isn't meaning anything nasty but i think he forgets not everyone has retired and has all the time in the world to learn ritual.
I have been in masons for a bit and worked my way up slowly not skipping anything as i like to feel i earned the positions that i have gone into and if i have not succeed in doing that role the lodge would not want me to go up till i am ready for a new one.
If someone who has been in for a while feels like this it is no wonder that newer masons are running scared. I was told this is not a job it is a hobby that we can enjoy, how can we beat this element of "if you cant get it right someone should have a go". Believe me if it was constructive i would be the first to say thanks but to have two shots at someone outside of practice just because you are in the chair is wrong.
What are your suggestions?
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