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mindmagic wrote:BoC, Rule 260 (iv):
"In the Grand Lodge a brother entitled to wear any of the collars described above may instead wear the appropriate collar of the office or rank in right of which he is attending."
In other words, a holder of Provincial or London rank may wear a PM collar instead of his Provincial one - if he wishes to do so.
rjgs wrote:If a Brother is awarded London Rank (wearing an apron with blue rosettes on it) when he has not been in the Chair of a Craft Lodge and then subsequently passes the Chair, is he then entitled to wear a LGR apron (with the levels on)? I am slightly puzzled by this anomaly!
Kyle wrote:AFAIK yes. I think it's covered in the BOC or IFTGOMOTC somewhere but it's a bit late for me to search at the moment so will look tomorrow.
There is a point (not really giving anything away) where in the Inner Working of an Installation the ME is invested with the badge (apron) of an Installed Master. If he was already LR or ProvGR with rossettes he would be invested with a LGR apron or a PrGR apron of the same rank but with levels. Under the Provincial system he would remain the same rank (e.g. PProvAsstGStdB) and in London he would become LGR. This happens as soon as he is an Installed Master, not once he has 'passed the Chair'.
Mike Martin wrote:I would tread carefully as this looks like supposition rather than knowledge.
There seems to be an assumption that the "levels" of London Grand Rank or in other words a "promotion" would automatically be given as the holder had gone through the Chair. I don't follow the logic and suspect it may be a fallacious statement, it is definitely something that should be checked with MetGL before promulgation.
Mike
A Metropolitan Grand Master, to the extent that the numbers permitted to be appointed to Metropolitan Grand Rank under this Rule have not been exceeded, may confer the rank designated Metropolitan Rank on Master Masons in Lodges of the Metropolitan Area who have rendered long and meritorious service to the Craft in the Metropolitan Area, the holders of such ranks to take precedence immediately after the Holders of Metropolitan Grand Rank; and any holder of Metropolitan Rank shall, in the event that he becomes a Past Master and thereby a member of the Grand Lodge in accordance with Rule 9, thereupon become a Holder of Metropolitan Grand Rank without the need for further appointment.
middlepillar wrote:One of my good friends now sadly deceased was awarded one of the first batch of London Rank, he was so chuffed that he decided as a thank you to his Lodge he would work his way through the chair (He had got up to SW 3 times but never felt he was 'good' eonough to take the chair!) At his Instalation he was divested of his dark blue apron with rosettes and invested with his dark blue apron with levels. This was after the Lodge had enquired from GQS (Pre Met GL) what the correct procedure was. He did have a fantastic year.
Sadly he died a week after installing his successor.
Trouillogan wrote:For what it's worth, the list is given in the B of C in rule 68 for Provinces and rule 5 for Grand.
David H wrote:Trouillogan wrote:For what it's worth, the list is given in the B of C in rule 68 for Provinces and rule 5 for Grand.
Thank you very much for the help - I am trying (without success) to relate it to the overwhelming display of dark blue with gold braid that I see at virtually every meeting I attend.
asabovesobelow wrote:David H wrote:Trouillogan wrote:For what it's worth, the list is given in the B of C in rule 68 for Provinces and rule 5 for Grand.
Thank you very much for the help - I am trying (without success) to relate it to the overwhelming display of dark blue with gold braid that I see at virtually every meeting I attend.
The various links on this page may be useful in providing an explanation - http://www.pglel.co.uk/Secretariat/Hono ... onours.asp
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