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UGLE Magazine - Freemasonry Today

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:21 am
by admin
I thought it might be interesting to have an area where we can discuss the Magazine the articles and the News it contains.

You can add articles here , links to pages within the magazine and you can solicit opinions.

Re: UGLE Magazine - Freemasonry Today

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:23 am
by admin
You can use an easy find link by clicking on the Lodgeroom Blog link above in the header and you will find the Magazine there.

http://lodgeroomstore.com/wordpress/201 ... mmer-2016/

Click on the Graphic and it opens the magazine on line for you.

Re: UGLE Magazine - Freemasonry Today

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:25 am
by admin

Re: UGLE Magazine - Freemasonry Today

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:31 am
by ozmike
Just saw the advertisement in the Summer 2016 issue from Toye Kenning Spencer on the Tercentenary Jewel. Any thoughts on it? Anybody notice the position of the square and compasses on it (and one the new craft tie) :-/

Re: UGLE Magazine - Freemasonry Today

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:16 am
by eric384
It's part of the rebranding and is on the various UGLE websites like that. Apart from that, I quite like the jewel, but because of it, won't be buying it or the tie.

Re: UGLE Magazine - Freemasonry Today

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:07 pm
by Trouillogan
It must be some sort of joke. The armorial bearing is that of UGLE and that is somewhat less than 300 years old, so why is it used as the main part of a 'tercentenary' jewel? The logo at the bottom, in my view, has nothing to do with Freemasonry, nor has this alternative tie they are advertising. I'm begining to think that we should have it in contemplation to de-recognise UGLE! Then again, perhaps I'm just an old grump. (20)

Re: UGLE Magazine - Freemasonry Today

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:11 pm
by Trouillogan
eric384 wrote:It's part of the rebranding and is on the various UGLE websites like that. Apart from that, I quite like the jewel, but because of it, won't be buying it or the tie.

Rebranding? Rebranding? Is this a now corporation with product lines to sell to the great unwashed? Bah, humbug!

Re: UGLE Magazine - Freemasonry Today

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 4:28 pm
by eric384
Trouillogan wrote:
eric384 wrote:It's part of the rebranding and is on the various UGLE websites like that. Apart from that, I quite like the jewel, but because of it, won't be buying it or the tie.

Rebranding? Rebranding? Is this a now corporation with product lines to sell to the great unwashed? Bah, humbug!


I don't think i'm the first to use that term. I think we are in the same camp regarding the separated square and compasses.

Re: UGLE Magazine - Freemasonry Today

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:22 pm
by Trouillogan
I feel much better for having let off some steam though! (7)

Re: UGLE Magazine - Freemasonry Today

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:01 pm
by admin
Thats why we are here.

Re: UGLE Magazine - Freemasonry Today

PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:09 am
by Trouillogan
Reverting more generally to the subject of the thread - Freemasonry Today - which of the regular features do you turn to first? For me, it's John Hamill's page as I find what he says to be the most thought provoking item in the magazine.

Re: UGLE Magazine - Freemasonry Today

PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:16 pm
by David H
Trouillogan wrote: The logo at the bottom, in my view, has nothing to do with Freemasonry, nor has this alternative tie they are advertising. I'm begining to think that we should have it in contemplation to de-recognise UGLE! (20)


I agree with the comments about the playschool logo and to be honest find myself more and more alienated by some of the pronouncements from the highest levels of the "powers that be" promulgated in "Freemasonry Today" not least much of the marketing jargon and misconceived targeting of so called "recruitment" (and for the avoidance of doubt I am not referring to the Universities Scheme) that much as I cherish membership of my UGLE lodge which I am now separated from by more than 600 miles I constantly wonder how I can morally justify paying a substantial sum to retain membership. In my heart I know it would probably be better to give that money to charity.

Re: UGLE Magazine - Freemasonry Today

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:14 am
by Trouillogan
Things pass, David. I believe the present hollowness will collapse in on itself eventually as it is seen for what it is even by those who espouse it, some unwittingly I dare say. There are those around the peak of Mount Olympus who appear on the face to go along with those ideas but in their hearts know otherwise. One shining example is, in my view, John Hamill. If you read between the lines, I think you will see what I mean. He is 'old school', a bit caught up in the new machinery but, as a one time GL librarian, trained under the greats such as Harry Carr and Terry Haunch, he knows what's what. It's a revelation to chat with him when he's puffing on a fag in the street!

Re: UGLE Magazine - Freemasonry Today

PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:41 pm
by wayne cowley
To be honest, I always save John Hamill's column until last as I know it will lift me from any despondency that some of the other articles might have caused

Wayne

Re: UGLE Magazine - Freemasonry Today

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:48 am
by Richard George
Trouillogan wrote:Things pass, David. I believe the present hollowness will collapse in on itself eventually as it is seen for what it is even by those who espouse it, some unwittingly I dare say. There are those around the peak of Mount Olympus who appear on the face to go along with those ideas but in their hearts know otherwise. One shining example is, in my view, John Hamill. If you read between the lines, I think you will see what I mean. He is 'old school', a bit caught up in the new machinery but, as a one time GL librarian, trained under the greats such as Harry Carr and Terry Haunch, he knows what's what. It's a revelation to chat with him when he's puffing on a fag in the street!


My gut feel is that there was - until recently, another well known name who decided enough was enough.

Re: UGLE Magazine - Freemasonry Today

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:53 pm
by Trouillogan
There was one who went off to join the Co-Masons and is quite happy there and another, of the cloth, who was told that his articles weren't wanted any more by FMT and wrote briefly for The Square. Now, sadly, he's no longer with us.

Re: UGLE Magazine - Freemasonry Today

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 8:04 pm
by Richard George
The one I'm thinking of is a bit more recent - like April time

Re: UGLE Magazine - Freemasonry Today

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:23 pm
by eric384
Richard George wrote:The one I'm thinking of is a bit more recent - like April time


I thought he was the one who said Freemasonry wasn't spiritual?

Re: UGLE Magazine - Freemasonry Today

PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:27 am
by Trouillogan
eric384 wrote:
Richard George wrote:The one I'm thinking of is a bit more recent - like April time


I thought he was the one who said Freemasonry wasn't spiritual?

No, that was the Deputy GM!!

Re: UGLE Magazine - Freemasonry Today

PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:23 am
by willf
Trouillogan wrote:Reverting more generally to the subject of the thread - Freemasonry Today - which of the regular features do you turn to first? For me, it's John Hamill's page as I find what he says to be the most thought provoking item in the magazine.


I agree. Unfortunately I feel, since it has become the 'house magazine,' it is often more style than substance.