Mystery Letters on Old Crest

Open discussion area for those who wish to learn more.

Moderators: Peter Taylor, JulesTheBit, middlepillar, wayne cowley

Mystery Letters on Old Crest

Postby Saracen1970 » Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:54 am

I am in the process of re-creating my SRiS College (West of Scotland) crest.
Image
The Rose in the centre features 18 letters and I was wondering if anyone knew what they might represent.

The Letters are AINIVPAVRAIIIVSNPA
Alex
of what use are flambeaux, torches and spectacles to him who shuts his eyes so as not to see?
User avatar
Saracen1970
LRUK Grand Supreme Master
LRUK Grand Supreme Master
 
Posts: 2797
Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:01 am
Location: East Central Scotland

Re: Mystery Letters on Old Crest

Postby MrMason » Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:59 pm

Hi Alex,
I have the very first set of printed lectures from your college which includes a paper on the crest. I can either scan it for you,(over the weekend as I'm nightshift), or lend you the book when we next meet?

Bob
Regards
Bob
MrMason
LRUK Grand Supreme Master
LRUK Grand Supreme Master
 
Posts: 1679
Joined: Tue Jan 04, 2005 8:59 pm
Location: Bonnie Scotland

Re: Mystery Letters on Old Crest

Postby Saracen1970 » Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:17 pm

Thanks Bob

That will be brilliant as I have had no luck tracking anything down on the internet.
Alex
of what use are flambeaux, torches and spectacles to him who shuts his eyes so as not to see?
User avatar
Saracen1970
LRUK Grand Supreme Master
LRUK Grand Supreme Master
 
Posts: 2797
Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:01 am
Location: East Central Scotland

Re: Mystery Letters on Old Crest

Postby MrMason » Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:23 pm

Will try and scan this afternoon if not tomorrow.
Regards
Bob
MrMason
LRUK Grand Supreme Master
LRUK Grand Supreme Master
 
Posts: 1679
Joined: Tue Jan 04, 2005 8:59 pm
Location: Bonnie Scotland

Re: Mystery Letters on Old Crest

Postby Saracen1970 » Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:49 pm

Hi Bob This is my take on the Crest

Image

The Outer Circle consists of the College Motto CRVX MEA LVX or The Cross is my Light and Coll: Rosic: Scot: Occid: latin for West of Scotland College.

The Inner Circle contains the 12 signs of the Zodiac: Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo,Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius and Pisces

From the top Right St Mark is represented by the Lion on a Red Background, St John is represented by the Eagle on a Yellow Background, St Mathew is represented by the Angel or Man on a White Background and St Luke is represented by the Bull on a Black Background.

The cardinal points North, South, East and West are symbolic of the Angels Uriel, Michael,Raphael and Gabriel who preside over these quarters. The Symbols for Fire, Water, Air and Earth are displayed on the arms of the Cross.

In the Centre Rose the letters are (clockwork from top):-

AIN SVP AVR – The Limitless Light
AIN SVP – The Limitless
AIN – The Trinity

The Crown Represents “Kether” The First Sephira
Alex
of what use are flambeaux, torches and spectacles to him who shuts his eyes so as not to see?
User avatar
Saracen1970
LRUK Grand Supreme Master
LRUK Grand Supreme Master
 
Posts: 2797
Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:01 am
Location: East Central Scotland

Re: Mystery Letters on Old Crest

Postby MrMason » Tue Jan 20, 2015 9:33 am

Excellent Alex.

Need to try and get to Glasgow sometime.
Regards
Bob
MrMason
LRUK Grand Supreme Master
LRUK Grand Supreme Master
 
Posts: 1679
Joined: Tue Jan 04, 2005 8:59 pm
Location: Bonnie Scotland

Re: Mystery Letters on Old Crest

Postby Eckywan » Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:15 pm

Jings Alex is that proof that Livingston is actually a weegie suburb?

Eckywan
Eckywan
LRUK Grand Supreme Master
LRUK Grand Supreme Master
 
Posts: 487
Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:35 pm
Location: Edinburgh

Re: Mystery Letters on Old Crest

Postby russellholland » Fri Mar 06, 2015 11:02 pm

>AIN – The Trinity

That may be a later Christian gloss.

It seems to me that Ain is the same as Anu (as in Bethany - house of Anu) and Anu is the same as An and On.

And An is also known to us as the leader of the Sumerian trinity - Ea, Baal, An. (a familiar combination of sounds?)

In Sumerian "An" means heaven thus An being the most senior (most high) of the heavenly gods was just called Heaven.

An was known to the Egyptians as Holy Arch since they supposed he came from the Pole Star around which the arch of the heavens rotates.

At least that is what I have put together from my reading.
russellholland
LRUK Grand Supreme Master
LRUK Grand Supreme Master
 
Posts: 456
Joined: Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:14 am

Re: Mystery Letters on Old Crest

Postby Saracen1970 » Sat Mar 07, 2015 4:34 pm

Thank you for the additional info Brother Russell.

And Eckywan, I joined the West of Scotland College because I work in Glasgow and it was much easier to get to George Square than to rush to Edinburgh or Falkirk.

I wanted to say Livingston is not a suburb of Glasgow, but most days it feels like it is. (27)
Alex
of what use are flambeaux, torches and spectacles to him who shuts his eyes so as not to see?
User avatar
Saracen1970
LRUK Grand Supreme Master
LRUK Grand Supreme Master
 
Posts: 2797
Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:01 am
Location: East Central Scotland

Re: Mystery Letters on Old Crest

Postby gord_vokes » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:28 am

Saracen1970 wrote:Thank you for the additional info Brother Russell.

And Eckywan, I joined the West of Scotland College because I work in Glasgow and it was much easier to get to George Square than to rush to Edinburgh or Falkirk.

I wanted to say Livingston is not a suburb of Glasgow, but most days it feels like it is. (27)


Very well done Alex. I will add the 4 classical elements on the arms of the cross.
Gord Vokes PDDGM
Lodge Southern Cross, No. 44
Grand Lodge of British Columbia & Yukon
User avatar
gord_vokes
LRUK Grand Supreme Master
LRUK Grand Supreme Master
 
Posts: 942
Joined: Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:24 am
Location: Coquitlam, British Columbia, Canada


Return to Rosicrucians

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests

cron