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Re: Forum Based Mentoring - Your thoughts??

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:53 pm
by Richard George
Don't dispute that; but is the mentoring more likely to be for the newer members who have yet to appreciate such things?
Still; it's a good idea to have it in a separate section.

Re: Forum Based Mentoring - Your thoughts??

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:13 pm
by Matt Hurley
Brethren, appreciate the Lively discussion. To try and answer your question brother Richard, it is for whoever wants it. I have always found it a positive experience whenever I have used mentoring.


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Re: Forum Based Mentoring - Your thoughts??

PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:41 pm
by gord_vokes
admin wrote:Sure, however that can be extended to in Lodge.

To gain admittance to a UK Lodge all that is needed is a certificate and a good knowledge of basic ritual.

US its a dues card.

With computers it is certainly not difficult to make false paperwork.

If the answer is no one would be bothered, then we are left with the only ones wanting to be mentored are the true Masons.

It is possible to create extra sections to be used only as mentoring sections , if that is thought to be a good idea.


As I attempted to express above, LodgeRoonUK was one of serveral excellent sites extant that mentored me, as I'm sorry to say the PMs of our Lodges had the ancient idea that those that had been Freemasons longer somehow know more than those that were junior in years as masons.
After several years a brother and sitting in the East in differnt units, I can tell you that those who are junior (not necessarily by age) have by their studies before giving three distinct knocks can teach me and by extension, many here, the truth of what being a Freemason consists of. Giving to charity without getting their pictures taken or some bling for it; taking a new EA under his wing and introducing him to different Lodges, types of ritual, and visiting our older members that are either home or hospital bound.

It was the first few years of the internet craze and good and autherntic authours were available to read on different sites. Hence I bought their books: Neville Barker-Cryer; W. Kirk Macnulty; Robert L.D. Cooper; Bernard E Jones; Colin Dyer; Andrew Prescott; every edition of AQC I could lay my hands on. All those authours in their several different books. And that's just one bookcase of three I have. Availablility to the Library at GL of BC & Y, which of course can't compare with GQS, and on and on.

The issue of how do we vet masons. UGLE produces a page as does BC & Y and every other GL that it considers regular and recognized. Each and every Grand Jurisdiction in the World, not just the Home Jurisdictions of England/Wales, Scotland and Ireland have committees that spend much time and inter-jurisdictional discussion on who is and who is not recognized. These masons I trust to do their job to the nth degree and so not a concern for here. I could list the brethren just from the Home Lodges that I've sat beside in Lodge; but I won't or we will end up with an endless exercise of name-dropping. I appreciate your concern and candor. If somehow a cowan sneaks through, well, we'll deal with it then.

I'm not sure if Admin needs to create more links for mentorship only; but so far he hasn't been wrong. (7)

Re: Forum Based Mentoring - Your thoughts??

PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 6:36 am
by admin
As I said to the Grand Master, the Duke I just hate it when people just drop names.

And as me Dad used to say 'if it is working, don't try to fix it'.

Re: Forum Based Mentoring - Your thoughts??

PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:44 pm
by gord_vokes
Trouillogan wrote:For what it's worth, on this forum it becomes fairly plain after a while whether or not someone is genuinely a Mason. It's the little things in the posts, the experiences shared, the attitudes expressed or implied, the things we find amusing, the similarities and differences between lodge workings; they all tell the tale. The getting to know the man, the building of trust.



Very well said (45)

Re: Forum Based Mentoring - Your thoughts??

PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:51 am
by Eckywan
On name dropping......
Bro Admin .... yesterday I talked briely to IPGMMo S also PM of No 2, Bro Sir Archie Donald Orr Ewing with loadsa letters after his name too
and will probably see him again next thursday at GLoS
Can you/ anyone here confirm his position in UGLE?
He's shy and Ive never pushed it
( I also often visit his mother lodge and sit quite close but the subject hasnt come up there)

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eckywan

Re: Forum Based Mentoring - Your thoughts??

PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:04 am
by eric384
Ecky

If you look at the GLos yearbook, you will see that Archie is a Past Senior Grand Warden of UGLE, and like Marcus Humphrey, I think he actually served as SGW (rather than it being what we would call an Honorary PSGW).

Re: Forum Based Mentoring - Your thoughts??

PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 11:48 am
by Richard George
2010 to be precise - and yes; it was an active rank.

Re: Forum Based Mentoring - Your thoughts??

PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:43 pm
by Eckywan
Correct .... but I knew that
There is a rumour of his potential promotion....

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eckywan

Re: Forum Based Mentoring - Your thoughts??

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:57 am
by MrBenn
Ye said it all

'rumour' & 'potential'

Until the ink is dry it is nothing more......

Re: Forum Based Mentoring - Your thoughts??

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:40 pm
by Eckywan
mmmmmm even more intriquing
But even as a substitute master past SW etc I never took the chair for granted until I was master elect
Shame he missed the 200th anniversary in 2013

frat
Eckywan

Re: Forum Based Mentoring - Your thoughts??

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:51 am
by Shaun127
Great thread guys.

Our Lodge Mentor oversees the mentoring carried out by individual, personal mentors within our Lodge, or which there are around 8 of us.

I currently have the privilege to be the personal mentor for 4 guys, but I’d like to develop my own mentoring skills.