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Royal Arch (Cross County - Provincial matters)

Postby banjocrewe » Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:06 pm

Can one join a Royal Arch chapter outside ones own PGL?

Although Im under the PGL of Cheshire, Im seriously thinking of making an application to join the Royal Arch near the place of my
birth near Blackpool. A place which I visit regularly, and have many friends there.

Im wondering about the PGL differences. i.e coming under one for Lodge, another for Chapter.

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Re: Royal Arch (Corss Country - Provincial matters)

Postby Stevecoath » Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:31 pm

I don't see why not.
I belong to units in Hertfordshire, Surrey, London, Devon, Somerset and Cornwall.
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Re: Royal Arch (Cross County - Provincial matters)

Postby banjocrewe » Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:42 pm

Stevecoath wrote:I don't see why not.
I belong to units in Hertfordshire, Surrey, London, Devon, Somerset and Cornwall.


Thanks Steve for the quick response.
Can I therefore join more than one RA Chapter?

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Re: Royal Arch (Corss Country - Provincial matters)

Postby Stevecoath » Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:08 pm

You can join as many as your funds allow.
If you look in the back of a Provincial Yearbook you may notice several Masons who have lines and lines of units they are members of.
PM Edmonton Latymer Lodge 5026 UGLE (Hertfordshire); PZ Edmonton Latymer Chapter 5026
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Re: Royal Arch (Cross County - Provincial matters)

Postby banjocrewe » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:00 pm

Thanks for your help.
I noticed that you use the term "UNITS" ?
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Re: Royal Arch (Cross County - Provincial matters)

Postby Richard George » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:54 pm

I belong to 2 chapters; one in Cambridgeshire (where my craft is), and my mother Chapter (in Essex).

Unit is the generic term for lodge,chapter,mark lodge, RAM lodge, rose chapter, etc.
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Re: Royal Arch (Cross County - Provincial matters)

Postby Matatu Man » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:03 am

My Mother RA Chapter is in Kent, and I am also a (founding) member in a Chapter in Luxembourg which comes under the Grand Chapter of Belgium, though it is another country. (Just to confuse matters! (28) )

As said earlier, you can join as many "units" as your finances will allow, irrespective of Province or District.
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Re: Royal Arch (Cross County - Provincial matters)

Postby Stevecoath » Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:45 am

banjocrewe wrote:Thanks for your help.
I noticed that you use the term "UNITS" ?


What I mean by that is different Lodges, Chapters, Conclaves, Preceptories, Colleges, etc.
For instance I am in 19 different "Orders" but 31 different "Units", ie. 3 different RA Chapters

Lodges are Craft, and Mark
Chapters are Royal Arch and Rose Croix
Conclaves are Red Cross of Constantine
Preceptories are KT
Colleges are SRIA and KTP
PM Edmonton Latymer Lodge 5026 UGLE (Hertfordshire); PZ Edmonton Latymer Chapter 5026
MM, Gladsmuir MMM 367; Gladsmuir RAM 367; Waltham Holy Cross A&AR 372; Blaise Pascal SRIA 70;
Jacques de Molay KT 670: Hertfordshire KTP 29, Walnut Tree Conclave RCC 440;
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Re: Royal Arch (Cross County - Provincial matters)

Postby Richard George » Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:00 pm

.. and Royal Order of Scotland are Provincial Grand Lodges.
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Re: Royal Arch (Cross County - Provincial matters)

Postby eric384 » Wed Aug 01, 2018 9:46 pm

Stevecoath wrote:
banjocrewe wrote:Thanks for your help.
I noticed that you use the term "UNITS" ?


What I mean by that is different Lodges, Chapters, Conclaves, Preceptories, Colleges, etc.
For instance I am in 19 different "Orders" but 31 different "Units", ie. 3 different RA Chapters

Lodges are Craft, and Mark
Chapters are Royal Arch and Rose Croix
Conclaves are Red Cross of Constantine
Preceptories are KT
Colleges are SRIA and KTP


No, KTP is Tabernacle (and the Apopendant OHW is a Congregation)
OSM is also Conclave
Acon is Chapel
Scarlet Cord is Consistory
Mariners is also Lodge
Knight Masons is Council

Confused? We are, and some of us are in most of them!
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Re: Royal Arch (Cross County - Provincial matters)

Postby Stevecoath » Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:02 am

eric384 wrote:No, KTP is Tabernacle (and the Apopendant OHW is a Congregation)
OSM is also Conclave
Acon is Chapel
Scarlet Cord is Consistory
Mariners is also Lodge
Knight Masons is Council

Confused? We are, and some of us are in most of them!


My bad, regarding KTP, I was thinking about Grand College
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MM, Gladsmuir MMM 367; Gladsmuir RAM 367; Waltham Holy Cross A&AR 372; Blaise Pascal SRIA 70;
Jacques de Molay KT 670: Hertfordshire KTP 29, Walnut Tree Conclave RCC 440;
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Re: Royal Arch (Cross County - Provincial matters)

Postby wayne cowley » Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:06 am

eric384 wrote:
Stevecoath wrote:
banjocrewe wrote:Thanks for your help.
I noticed that you use the term "UNITS" ?


What I mean by that is different Lodges, Chapters, Conclaves, Preceptories, Colleges, etc.
For instance I am in 19 different "Orders" but 31 different "Units", ie. 3 different RA Chapters

Lodges are Craft, and Mark
Chapters are Royal Arch and Rose Croix
Conclaves are Red Cross of Constantine
Preceptories are KT
Colleges are SRIA and KTP


No, KTP is Tabernacle (and the Apopendant OHW is a Congregation)
OSM is also Conclave
Acon is Chapel
Scarlet Cord is Consistory
Mariners is also Lodge
Knight Masons is Council

Confused? We are, and some of us are in most of them!


R&SM are also Councils

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Re: Royal Arch (Cross County - Provincial matters)

Postby Stevecoath » Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:16 am

And every meeting when we use the wrong term there is always a well meaning brother who graciously corrects us
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Re: Royal Arch (Cross County - Provincial matters)

Postby Richard George » Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:53 am

... which is why I just used the term 'generic'! :)
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Re: Royal Arch (Cross County - Provincial matters)

Postby YHWH » Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:07 pm

eric384 wrote:
No, KTP is Tabernacle (and the Apopendant OHW is a Congregation)
OSM is also Conclave
Acon is Chapel
Scarlet Cord is Consistory
Mariners is also Lodge
Knight Masons is Council

Confused? We are, and some of us are in most of them!


Also:
- Council refers to RSM.
- College and Chapter refer to Squire Novices.
- Chapter refer to KBHC.
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Re: Royal Arch (Cross County - Provincial matters)

Postby banjocrewe » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:28 pm

A couple of Quick Questions:

Do all Royal Arch chapters only have an Exaltation once a year? (say every installation mtg)
Or is it every quarter they meet?

How many Exaltations can a chapter have per meeting?

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Re: Royal Arch (Cross County - Provincial matters)

Postby forester » Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:04 pm

The ceremony is something special and therefore it tends to be one exaltation at each meeting (apart from installation). My particular chapter (Alexander 1661) has this year had 2 so far and another one in October
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Re: Royal Arch (Cross County - Provincial matters)

Postby banjocrewe » Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:16 pm

forester wrote:The ceremony is something special and therefore it tends to be one exaltation at each meeting (apart from installation). My particular chapter (Alexander 1661) has this year had 2 so far and another one in October


Thanks for clearing that up. (29)
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Re: Royal Arch (Cross County - Provincial matters)

Postby Matatu Man » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:00 am

We have an Exaltation at every meeting (excluding Installation night) as there is quite a backlog of applicants at both my Chapters.
Indeed, interest to join is so high that double-Exaltations are not infrequent. Luckily the ceremony lends itself quite well to a double, but we do all prefer singles.
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