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Protocol - Greetings when visiting another Lodge

Postby colineglos » Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:49 pm

I've been approached by a couple of EA's seeking a website (URL) where they may
find a video (or PDF) relating to the short greeting one gives when visiting other lodges
as a guest.

You know the ..
Stand...
"Greeting from the WM/Brethren of [lodge name] [lodge number][country] etc."
Then the EA salute.

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Re: Protocol - Greetings when visiting another Lodge

Postby Richard George » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:27 pm

I very much doubt you'll find one! - and be aware that 'giving greetings' is Province-specific .. that is to say that in some Provinces (Cambs for example...) it's not done (and it's arguable that it's a piece of ritual given a salute is involved). Thus if visiting another Province, never give greeting without checking if it's acceptable first; always check with the secretary or DC beforehand if it's ok to do so.

You should also be aware that, strictly speaking, it should only be done under the direct request of the Master of your lodge - you are actually delivering greetings on his behalf and not your own; you are not entitled to speak for him without his prior agreement.

All that said, there are no set words and it's entirely up to the individual what they say.
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Re: Protocol - Greetings when visiting another Lodge

Postby MBC » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:35 pm

I have learned a protocol of precedence of sending greetings in a oversea place, but I can certainly ensue you that there are many ways being done:

1. Lodges in the same District or Provinces
2. Lodges in another District or Provinces
3. Lodges from another jurisdictions

And the smaller numbers normally takes precedence as well.
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Re: Protocol - Greetings when visiting another Lodge

Postby Mike Martin » Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:30 pm

Not something that is done in London Lodges.

Don’t forget that Visitor should have cleared it with the Master of his Lodge as the greeting is on behalf of the “Master, Wardens and Brethren of xxxxxx Lodge No xxxx.
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Re: Protocol - Greetings when visiting another Lodge

Postby Matatu Man » Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:16 am

As Richard George and Mike Martin said.

In all my time visiting it has been different everywhere I went!
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Re: Protocol - Greetings when visiting another Lodge

Postby mindmagic » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:09 am

The only time I've ever seen it done in London was in my own lodge, when a visiting overseas brother insisted on doing it despite my best efforts as DC to dissuade him. It seemed very out of place.
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Re: Protocol - Greetings when visiting another Lodge

Postby Peter Dowling » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:54 am

I have only seen it done at Inst meetings on behalf of the WM.
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Re: Protocol - Greetings when visiting another Lodge

Postby MrBenn » Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:37 pm

As already mentioned - check with the lodge they are visiting - and it would usually be the most senior mason of the visiting party who would give greetings - not all of them
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Re: Protocol - Greetings when visiting another Lodge

Postby The Uninitiated » Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:06 pm

In several Lodges that I've visited recently, at the third rising the DC has invited visitors to offer greetings.

I felt that this was a great way of avoiding the confusion of when (or if) to stand to do so!
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Re: Protocol - Greetings when visiting another Lodge

Postby Matatu Man » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:17 am

That's how we do it at my Mother Lodge.
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Re: Protocol - Greetings when visiting another Lodge

Postby john mcmillan » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:35 pm

in this neck of the woods, when the Master says " as I am about to close this Lodge, If anyone has anything to say for the good of Freemasonry in general or this Lodge in particular..I will hear them now".......any visitor can stand up and exchange Fraternal greetings from any Lodge they are members of and their province if applicable.
the wording is not written down anywhere (as far as I am aware) but you pick it up as you go around. It is usually "Right Worshipful Master, on behalf of the members of Lodge xxx who have accompanied me here this evening (if Applicable) could we thank you and your Brethren for the warmth of your welcome on entering the Lodge tonight, congratulate you and your office bearers/degree team for the fine working of the nth degree and congratulate the candidate on his taking the x step on his masonic career (if Applicable), with these few words I bring warm and fraternal greetings from the master wardens and brethren of Lodge xxx ( and the Provincial Grand Lodge of xxx ( if applicable)) and will convey yours back to my mother lodge on my next return"

or words to that effect.....
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Re: Protocol - Greetings when visiting another Lodge

Postby Peter Taylor » Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:05 pm

john mcmillan wrote:in this neck of the woods, when the Master says " as I am about to close this Lodge, If anyone has anything to say for the good of Freemasonry in general or this Lodge in particular..I will hear them now".......any visitor can stand up and exchange Fraternal greetings from any Lodge they are members of and their province if applicable.
the wording is not written down anywhere (as far as I am aware) but you pick it up as you go around. It is usually "Right Worshipful Master, on behalf of the members of Lodge xxx who have accompanied me here this evening (if Applicable) could we thank you and your Brethren for the warmth of your welcome on entering the Lodge tonight, congratulate you and your office bearers/degree team for the fine working of the nth degree and congratulate the candidate on his taking the x step on his masonic career (if Applicable), with these few words I bring warm and fraternal greetings from the master wardens and brethren of Lodge xxx ( and the Provincial Grand Lodge of xxx ( if applicable)) and will convey yours back to my mother lodge on my next return"

or words to that effect.....
Or, if there are a lot of visitors, the Master will call on, (sometimes unsuspecting), a Brother to reply on behalf of the visitors.
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Re: Protocol - Greetings when visiting another Lodge

Postby john mcmillan » Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:39 pm

Very true Peter.
At our installations it is not unusual for the new Master to select a visitor from within the province to give fraternals and one from without the Province.
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Re: Protocol - Greetings when visiting another Lodge

Postby Peter Taylor » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:52 pm

john mcmillan wrote:Very true Peter.
At our installations it is not unusual for the new Master to select a visitor from within the province to give fraternals and one from without the Province.

And if it hasn't been organised, you could be there all night!
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Re: Protocol - Greetings when visiting another Lodge

Postby eckywan2 » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:21 am

We just had our annual installation yesterday and replies were only made at the festival of St John
At normal meetings sometimes its as John Mc says
sometimes not but that's Scotland for you !
If you want an old example Mother Kilwinning No 0 many centuries opld
someome from each lodge present will give a version of what John gave as example
or not
and that will be noted by Bro Secretary therefore the visitor can go back to his ain folk and report his visit and know its been noted by Kilwinnings secy.
Ive been caught out a few time when RWM to reply on behalf of all visitors and that's always fun to see
but I try to avoid what I call the British Standard reply (as shown above) and personalise it ( stressing candidate's welcome to visit)
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Re: Protocol - Greetings when visiting another Lodge

Postby thevault » Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:01 pm

Very similar to John and Peter. In Stirlingshire it usually falls on the newest installed Master of those visiting. Or as I've found from my sly, more mature (wise auld yins) they very cutely pass the buck onto an unassuming younger Master.....All done in good faith though and we'd never see anyone stuck.
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Re: Protocol - Greetings when visiting another Lodge

Postby alarawany » Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:58 am

I don't think you will be able to fine one
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Re: Protocol - Greetings when visiting another Lodge

Postby eckywan2 » Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:30 am

Welcome alarwany
Please use the landing pad to tell us some basic details about your interest in Freemasonry
and where Soran is


brethren I'm now too old but was caught out a few times b4 c'est la vie
and I like the non standard reply that that can bring !
PS a graduate in comp science who uses wee words and no spellcheck ???
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Re: Protocol - Greetings when visiting another Lodge

Postby Richard George » Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:47 am

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Re: Protocol - Greetings when visiting another Lodge

Postby eckywan2 » Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:10 am

Thanks Richard caution all
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