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Opening /closing ode music download

Postby DVR » Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:37 pm

Hi guys , our organist can't always attend and I was wondering if anyone can recommend some MP3 tracks of the opening and closing odes that I could download ? I don't mind paying for them or a cd etc but I'm having trouble finding quality tracks .

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Re: Opening /closing ode music download

Postby Trouillogan » Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:05 pm

Due to the demise of six local organists over a three month period, we were left with a dearth of music makers for several orders and in several centres either side of the border between two provinces. So, having been an orchestral musician in my early adulthood (now, non-playing), having spent most of my working life in IT and having been in Masonry for a number of decades, I felt I should put those things to use, with the result that I currently produce the music for nine Craft Lodges in the two provinces, two RA chapters and a Rose Croix.

In searching for downloads, I found several Masonic organ tracks on Youtube. They are mainly mp4 but by using the free 'XMedia Recode' software you can strip the sound track and recode it as mp3. With odes, National Anthem and other stuff that is an accompaniment to singing, it's important to ensure the music track has an absolutely regular beat, otherwise the brethren lag or overtake. To edit the tracks I use the free 'Audacity' to work on the whole file or on sections that need tweaking and to make sure that each piece has an appropriate sound level. For each Lodge/Chaper, I keep a separate folder for the singing accompaniments and any special FB stuff, and a common folder for the general stuff such as the Saul Death March, processionals, recessionals and so on. Then for each of these Lodges and Chapters I have its named playlist for use in the free Videolan 'VLC' player - that has better control and flexibility than Windows Media Player. All the free software I mentioned is available for Mac and Windows.

The editing and the compiling do take some time to get right and it's a good idea to attend the LoIs and rehearsals in the beginning. When you have it right for them, that's it - click and sit back!

For installation investments you can collect a few choice pieces to relieve the monotony!
For example, for the:
Chaplain ‘Have a little faith, baby, have a little faith’ from Kelly’s Heroes
DC ‘I talk to the Trees’
Treasurer ‘If I were a rich man’
Charity Steward ‘You’ve got to pick a pocket or two’
Deacons ‘Wandering Star’

And a few odd bits - 'Hey Ho, Hey Ho!' (for the stewards' exit), ABBA 'Money Money Money' (for the alms collection), Laurel & Hardy's squeaky signature phrase (for when something goes pear shaped!).

I do the playback through the organ amplifier in each Lodge room (connectors are under the keyboard usually), as that is big enough for the room. Use the organ stops to kill the keyboard and pedals! You need a collection of different connecting cables and adapters and a small torch. They don't usually expect the organ to have voices! For music at FBs (bugle calls, Lodge songs, National Anthem), I take my own 'boom box' amplifier. It's important to have a notebook to record how each Lodge works - processional or entry singing the ode; Nat Anth before or after the closing ode; which ode tunes to use - etc. etc. It's essential this is all done by a separate dedicated 'musical director' and not by the DC or Sec using a remote - it doesn't work, as they have other things to think about.

For one of the Craft degrees, I have a black screen wallpaper to reduce the screen light output.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Opening /closing ode music download

Postby DVR » Sun Dec 13, 2015 1:56 pm

That's great . Thanks for your help.
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Re: Opening /closing ode music download

Postby JohnnyTheFox » Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:45 pm

There are some audio files of the opening and closing odes on YouTube


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Re: Opening /closing ode music download

Postby Trouillogan » Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:09 am

JohnnyTheFox wrote:There are some audio files of the opening and closing odes on YouTube
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I found those hard to use, as some have the vocals and others vary in speed which makes them pretty useless for accompaniment unless you spend a lot of time editing them. By tedious searching you will find some you can use. Then there are the different tunes used: University College, Stuttgart, St Oswald, Cumberland & Westmorland, St Sylvester, Saedingburn - to name but a few! You've a job on your hands! Some of the CDs are OK but you need to listen to them first, for the correct tunes and for regular beat.
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Re: Opening /closing ode music download

Postby GeoffW » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:17 pm

Have you tried this website?

http://www.masonicmedia.co.uk/musiccatalogue.htm

They produce CDs which are dedicated masonic ceremony organ music. They are quite pricey, but if you can get your masonic hall to purchase a set for the use of all the Lodges that use the hall, it's quite reasonable - that's what we did.

I am the Secretary of my Masonic Hall Company and to help those Lodges without an organist, we purchased a professional CD deck to go alongisde our organ and use its amplifier, along with a set of CDs and now any of our resident lodges can use it if their organist is ill or if they don't have an organist at all.
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Re: Opening /closing ode music download

Postby Trouillogan » Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:23 pm

Yes, I am aware of that and have used some pieces from some CDs. I find it's no good using a CD deck as the response is not quick enough and the repertoire limited. I put the (usually edited) files in different playlists for different Lodges and Chapters, then they are instantly available at a click or a touch, depending on the interface you use.

For many Lodges and particularly for an installation, I need other music I pick up here and there. For example, for installations at some of the more laid back 'fun' Lodges I do something like:

When the PGM or APGM's escort knocks to come in, I might give them the Boston Pops under John Williams, playing the opening theme from 'Jaws' for a few seconds.

When the APGM is processed in they will do so, courtesy the same exponents, with the theme from 'Superman'.

For the investments, when people are really quite bored, I have:

Chaplain: 'Have a little faith, baby, have a little faith' (Kelly's Heroes - Donald Sutherland voice)
Treasurer: 'If I were a rich man' (Topol)
Secretary: 'The typewriter music' (a 1950s Berlin Phil)
Deacons: 'Under a Wandering Star' (Lee Marvin - music only)
DC: 'Who do you think you are kidding, Mr Hitler' (Dad's Army)
ADC: 'I talk to the trees, but they don't listen to me' (Clint Eastwood)
Charity Steward: 'You've got to pick a pocket or two' (Fiddler on the roof)
Stewards: 'Off to work we go' (Snow White - Walt Disney)

Others will have, as yet, nondescript background music.

A reminder before the start of the meeting about mobile phones being turned off, is a gradual crescendo of a distorted ring-tone.
An alms collection is accompanied by ABBA playing 'Money, Money, Money'.
If someone falls over or trips, asecond or two of the instantly recognised signature theme used in 1930s films of Laurel & Hardy (also attached) should remove any remaining dignity!

Of course, decorum is kept appropriate at the right times and serious for Lodges not so laid back.

I find it's all about repertoire and having everything right there in an instant. Great fun - hard work but great fun!
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Re: Opening /closing ode music download

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Re: Opening /closing ode music download

Postby David H » Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:52 pm

Trouillogan wrote:I find it's all about repertoire and having everything right there in an instant. Great fun - hard work but great fun!


What about the latecomers? I never saw it myself but I read that a former Army Director of Music took on the duties of Organist at several Lodges in Eastbourne after he retired and a favourite of his to play when latecomers entered was "Who were you with last night?"

Of course things are different in Scotland - the most unusual opening ode I have heard so far is "Hearts of Oak"
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Re: Opening /closing ode music download

Postby Trouillogan » Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:24 pm

David H wrote:
Trouillogan wrote:I find it's all about repertoire and having everything right there in an instant. Great fun - hard work but great fun!


What about the latecomers? I never saw it myself but I read that a former Army Director of Music took on the duties of Organist at several Lodges in Eastbourne after he retired and a favourite of his to play when latecomers entered was "Who were you with last night?"

Of course things are different in Scotland - the most unusual opening ode I have heard so far is "Hearts of Oak"

That's a good one for a late-comer David, I must use that. Sometimes I use 'The arrival of the Queen of Sheba'!

Last week I actually marched a lodge in to the Muppets!

Special circumstances though - they were all quite merry in the bar beforehand; the candidate for the 2° had phoned in sick; they'd decided to go as far as the WTs only and omit the SE corner; there were only about 20 present; I ran the idea past the WM and he agreed; then without telling the DC what was intended, I asked him to keep a straight face while heading the incoming procession.

Result: everyone was in fits! (2) Totally relaxed and a superb ceremony, better than I've seen them do before. I hope it doesn't get out, or the province will likely issue an interdict! (19)
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Re: Opening /closing ode music download

Postby TimeT » Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:59 pm

Good evening Trouillogan

This is fascinating and something I'm tempted to try. As the secretary I'm sure I can get away with having my MacBook open on the desk (I've been looking for an excuse to start using it rather than scraps of paper anyway!) but I wonder whether an iPod connected to the amplifier might be easier to manage on the night. Have you ever tried that?

Second question - is VLC quicker and/or more responsive that iTunes?

Love the idea of some more laid back music so interested to "borrow" your ideas.

Thanks. Mark
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Re: Opening /closing ode music download

Postby Trouillogan » Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:33 pm

TimeT wrote:Good evening Trouillogan

This is fascinating and something I'm tempted to try. As the secretary I'm sure I can get away with having my MacBook open on the desk (I've been looking for an excuse to start using it rather than scraps of paper anyway!) but I wonder whether an iPod connected to the amplifier might be easier to manage on the night. Have you ever tried that?

Second question - is VLC quicker and/or more responsive that iTunes?

Love the idea of some more laid back music so interested to "borrow" your ideas.

Thanks. Mark

First, welcome back TimeT!

Most important is that whoever runs the music, does that only and doesn't try to double up with another job. I've seen that and it always ends in disaster at some point. It's highly desirable to follow the ritual book and the summons throughout, so you can click on the instant an SMIB is needed, or gauge the duration of perambulations with candidates, ballots and the like.

I've not tried using iTunes for this, so I cannot comment but I have tried tablets. I found that having a tablet screen of icons to be less useful as an interface and somewhat limiting than a plain playlist (title and duration, grouped by function under headings) on VLC or on VirtualDJ. I favour the former for its interface simplicity and for playback being instantaneous. The latter, I find the screen cluttered (insufficient room for the list), complex (too many clicks) and the text too small, although speeds can be adjusted on the fly - OK for the kind of mixing needed at a disco but not really practical for a lodge meeting unless you are a DJ already using this software regularly. Can be a case of horses for courses though. Then there's also production of music for use at some FBs for which you would often need your own amplifier. I use a 100 Watt box which seems to be sufficient.

Whatever you use for playback, almost all source music needs to be edited in some way before use - removal of leading silences; fade outs; odes at different speeds depending on how many are present (the more people singing, the slower the music); addition of introductory bars and SMIBs; transposition to another key; alterations to overall duration; adjustments to peak and/or VU levels so as to simplify playback level setting; adding or removing verses; removal of background noise in some recordings and so on. These can all be accomplished using Audacity for the 'off-line' editing phase. It's not trivial but the results can be very rewarding.
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Re: Opening /closing ode music download

Postby eckywan2 » Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:39 pm

Just been to Lodge St Davids 36 in Edinburgh
with 3 pianists/ organists
One being a new student member One PM Maestro Dr Alberto Massimo ( orchestra leader and lecturer)
and just in case PM Malcolm Macrae ASS Grand organist ( regular organist at no 2 with 200 year old organ)

and one of the candidates was Omar known here as overfinch !!
I had to leave before harmony for granddad duties jist chilling out now before arrival!

Cant beat real live music
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Re: Opening /closing ode music download

Postby TimeT » Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:51 pm

Thanks Trouillogan for a very comprehensive answer.

I'm glad you said about having another brother to take this on and could imagine getting distracted trying to fulfil two jobs at once.

I really hadn't appreciated the number of variables you took on board either but they all make sense now you've highlighted them.

I shall do some more research and see what I can end up with but thanks for the inspiration.

I agree with you eckywan2 about live music but needs must and I'd rather have something ...
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Re: Opening /closing ode music download

Postby Trouillogan » Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:27 pm

TimeT wrote:Thanks Trouillogan for a very comprehensive answer.

I'm glad you said about having another brother to take this on and could imagine getting distracted trying to fulfil two jobs at once.

I really hadn't appreciated the number of variables you took on board either but they all make sense now you've highlighted them.

I shall do some more research and see what I can end up with but thanks for the inspiration.

I agree with you eckywan2 about live music but needs must and I'd rather have something ...


Likewise, I agree,sort of, about having having a live player but - speaking with a recent (present?) Deputy Grand Organist who said I wasn't a real organist; I suggested that although it's a perfectly valid point of view, he sits at a box of electronics, presses keys and music emanates, which is exactly what I do! (19)
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Re: Opening /closing ode music download

Postby TimeT » Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:54 pm

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Re: Opening /closing ode music download

Postby Steve Gurr » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:16 pm

Anyone tried the 'App' Virtual Masonic Organist' - I use it in our Lodge after we lost our organist. It works great and you can add any music to it you may wish - I have had one disaster after playing "White Christmas" during the opening ode!

Other than that operator error it's a great product.
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