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Re: Country membership

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:09 pm
by Trouillogan
David H wrote:We just had 5 weeks solid summer here - then in I bought a convertible and the weather changed :)

So it's all your fault the weather's just gone pear-shaped! (4)

Re: Country membership

PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:50 pm
by David H
Trouillogan wrote:So it's all your fault the weather's just gone pear-shaped! (4)


Absolutely, mea maxima culpa, There has been much craw thumping up here (2)

Re: Country membership

PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:34 pm
by eckywan2
Sceleste puer david ! Leave the craws alone

Re: Country membership

PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:23 pm
by David H
eckywan2 wrote:Sceleste puer david ! Leave the craws alone


Not the big black birds Ecky - something anatomical. Welcome back

Re: Country membership

PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:46 am
by eckywan2
Aye I knew
Missouri was even hotter at 99 f PLUS heat index
( like we have 4 c MINUS wind chill)
and TV warnings NOT to leave house !

Cheers David ( guess my old Colleague Ramsay is getting ready for promotion!)

Re: Country membership

PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:31 am
by Lazza21
And I left our convertible in France bet when we go back at the end of the month it will pour.

Re: Country membership

PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:01 am
by eckywan2
Its easy for you to pop over lazza
I need a new tunnel, avoiding engerland !

Re: Country membership

PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:22 am
by David H
Country membership anyone?

Re: Country membership

PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:38 am
by David H
Lazza21 wrote:And I left our convertible in France bet when we go back at the end of the month it will pour.

I will be cruising down south to Leith in my convertible shortly (55)

Re: Country membership

PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:22 pm
by MrBenn
Is there sunshine on Leith? :-)

Re: Country membership

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:53 am
by eckywan2
Aye its sunny but it may also become sunni
protected in a way by large sikh group here !
Browned off
going to lodge in a wee mo Tuesday morning DIY club for any work needed on Temple during summer break
or a cuppa wi the boys!

Re: Country membership

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:12 am
by Postiebear
My lodge fees in Essex also include dining currently £30 a meeting so £120 a year

If I went country my lodge fees would be £120 a year less but would pay £30 a meal to dine

As I full member if I decide not to dine I would not receive a £30 per meal refund

Only full members can progress through the offices


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Re: Country membership

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:26 am
by Trouillogan
Postiebear wrote:Only full members can progress through the offices

That could only be so if it's in your lodge's by-laws but I doubt that your PGM would allow such a by-law.
If this is a problem for you, then I suggest you take it up with your lodge Master and the secretary, thence to your Provincial G Sec and then to the G Sec until it can be explained legitimately.

Re: Country membership

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:40 pm
by Postiebear
I am IPM so not an issue as was living in Essex when progressing was only as my year as master I had a 200 mile round trip




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Re: Country membership

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:27 pm
by eckywan2
Same old question from me
why not join a LODGE
instead of a dining club?

Re: Country membership

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:39 pm
by Lazza21
But we enjoy the festive board, come and be my guest if you ever venture down here.

Re: Country membership

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:42 pm
by Richard George
Trouillogan wrote:
Postiebear wrote:Only full members can progress through the offices

That could only be so if it's in your lodge's by-laws but I doubt that your PGM would allow such a by-law.
If this is a problem for you, then I suggest you take it up with your lodge Master and the secretary, thence to your Provincial G Sec and then to the G Sec until it can be explained legitimately.


True - but it could also be argued that country members are not in the position of being able attend regularly enough to fulfill the obligations inherent with accepting office.

Re: Country membership

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:24 pm
by eckywan2
Thanks Lazza
I will remember that
I just declined an invitation to MMM for ten year anniversary meeting
partly due to costs of fare to London , London hotel prices
and £50 per head dining
( mind you The Master has a commute from Pyrenees !!)

Re: Country membership

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:13 pm
by David H
eckywan2 wrote:Same old question from me
why not join a LODGE
instead of a dining club?


I tried. I had visited the Lodge I applied to join and was proposed by a PM of the Lodge. I didn't even get the courtesy of a reply! Vile and disgraceful behaviour - why is it tolerated? I had the pleasure of meeting Bro.Joe Morrow former Grand Master Mason recently and spoke at some length to him. He was an absolute gentleman - a stunning contrast. (I don't expect to win any friends by posting this and to the frank I could not care less)

I am delighted to be a member of an excellent lodge with absolutely perfect administration etc and outside of that have outstanding invitations to visit Lodges from Dublin to Sussex.

Re: Country membership

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:42 pm
by Trouillogan
Richard George wrote:
Trouillogan wrote:
Postiebear wrote:Only full members can progress through the offices

That could only be so if it's in your lodge's by-laws but I doubt that your PGM would allow such a by-law.
If this is a problem for you, then I suggest you take it up with your lodge Master and the secretary, thence to your Provincial G Sec and then to the G Sec until it can be explained legitimately.


True - but it could also be argued that country members are not in the position of being able attend regularly enough to fulfill the obligations inherent with accepting office.

I agree with you Richard but practical ability is, in my view, a separate issue from what may or may not be permitted by the rules. It has been the case and practice down the years that a lodge master is known beforehand to be unable to carry out those duties, delegating them instead to an 'acting' or 'pro' due to military, parliamentary or royal duties, or to health issues. Nonetheless, he is Master of his lodge. Rule 119 covers most of the contingencies.